Journey-The Perry Years

Infinity-1978 (B)



Steve Perry has arrived!! The Voice Of Rock makes his debut on Journey's 4th cd Infinity. And from the first note of the first song you can tell that this is a different band. A band focused and with a mission. Finally Neal Schon had someone who could match his high soaring guitar. And they were a match that no other band could top.
Infinity starts with a slow number about there hometown San Francisco, Lights. Songs like this would be the future of the band on the radio. Lights was the best way to start off the new direction. Lights showcases both Perry and Schon, and shows what makes this band click now.
Perry shines on other songs to, the classic Wheel In The Sky, love his sky high vocal over Schon solo in the song.
La Do Da, Patiently, and Winds Of March again is a showcase for Perry. But Can Do and Opened The Door are the low part of the cd, and almost bring back the feel of the first three cds.
Perry isn't the only Singer in the band. Rolie is still around, and shares leads with Perry on Feeling That Way and Anytime. Shame Rolie is reduced to this, because he is a good singer, it was just the direction the band was going in was not going to get them fame.
Production at times is a little heavy, and the new remasters only bring theses shortcomings more to the forefront.




Evolution-1979 (B-)

Journey's cd saw yet another member change, this time Dunbar is gone on drums and Steve Smith comes in. Smith makes a big improvement in the sound and direction of the band. The music becomes tighter, giving the music more focus and direction. So the two Steve's have made a big impact on the music.
Evolution starts of with the regal instrumental Majestic. A great opening for the cd, just wish this song could have been longer. Then moves quickly into Too Late, a song about getting a new start before you can't. Reminds me a little of the Lights mood, and kinda of weird the cd first full song is in the same mood and tone. But it is a good song, and the new drummer is very apparent.
Lovin, Touchin, Squeezin is a staple Journey song. The song has a great beat, Neal has good lick, and Perry pours the emotion into the song. The na na na...chorus ending usually has a room full people singing with, even now almost 30 years later. The live version I must say is even better, so catch the band in concert when you can.
Now the cd slips for me with the rocker City Of The Angels. It just never goes anywhere, to me just a noisy mess of a song. The same When Your Alone (It Ain't Easy). Again loud, but for what reason. I do not like Neal's guitar in this song. And Perry too seems to be loud just to be loud.
But thankfully, the next song brings the cd back in line. Sweet and Simple is just that, and Neal and Perry seems to be at a perfect match. Lovin You Is Easy, is an ok song, but the cd brings next a Rollie and Perry duet (for lack of a better word), that rocks. And is better than the two they did together on the last cd, INFINITY.
But again the cd fails to keep up the pace, and the closing last 3 songs are mediocre and best, Do You Recall, is the better of the last three. Daydream and Lady Luck are just poor songwriting.
Production is better on this cd. If the songwriting had been a little bet better, it would have put it on the same level as INFINITY. I guess the main difference between the two are, INFINITY had more songs that were better, and EVOLUTION had some that were very good, but also had so that were very weak. So I give the advantage to INFINITY.


Departure-1980 (B)



DEPARTURE is keyboardists Greg Rollie's last recording with the band. And the band turns in a tighter performance than on any previous cd. The cd starts off with a bang, Any Way You Want It is a very driven song. Driven by high powerful vocals, hard riffs that drive the music home, a pounding bass line, and mixed into this is some great keys by Rollie.
The next song Walks Like A Lady changes pace to an almost R & B feel, and Ross' bass and Smith's drums bring out the best of the song, and again some good keyboard work by Rollie. And speaking of Rollie, this is probably his best work to date. But that doesn't save the next to songs, which fall flat.
Someday Soon even with the great vocal work, is a no show. And People And Places is just boring.
Thankfully the cd picks up again and Precious Time kicks it back into gear, and Where Were You slaps it into overdrive. DEPARTURE is Journeys hardest rocking cd to this point. They have gotten away from the jazz rock of the early cds. And each cd sells more and more. One of the things that has helped the band to this point is the one two combination of Schon and Perry combo, with a little Rollie thrown in. And a good example of this is I'm Crying.
I'm Crying is big, bad, loud, overexerted, and awesome!!!! The song is just Perry at his best, with rest of the band following along. Neal axe work is menacing and haunting at the same time. Best song on the cd.
In The Line Of Fire is another good fast paced rocker. This song is a ball of energy that is set to explode.
But the cd slows with the instrumental Departure, and goes into the vocal showcase Good Morning Girl, another example of why Perry is "The Voice of Rock". This is followed by the ballads Stay Awhile, which is a very nice laid back song, showing the possibility of future songs like Faithfully and Open Arms.
But the cd ends on a sour note with Homemade Love. A sort of boogie woogie song that goes nowhere.
This cd is on the level of INFINITY, but the production at times seems hollow and shallow, taking away at times from the music. But musically, this was there best to this point.


Captured-1980 (B+)


Journey's live cd CAPTURED is a great name for the cd. They have captured a true Journey concert, they show the band how they really are, fun and rocking. They take you on a ride that is easy to get into. Not only is Journey hyped on this cd, but the fans are too.
When I listen to a live recording there are things I listen for. 1) how does the band sound, does it sound like the band on the studio cds. 2) What new things do they bring to the songs. 3) Are the songs at least as good as the original. 4) How do they interact with the crowd. 5) And how raw or polished the sound is.
CAPTURED succeeds on just about every level. Just about every song on this cd is as good as the original. With a few surpassing the original. Line Of Fire, Lights/Stay Awhile, Walks Like A Lady, Lovin Touchin Squeezin, and Wheel In The Sky all surpass the original. Any Way You Want on this cd is one of the few live versions of the song that come off good, they nail it here.
Do You Recall and Dixie Highway are the downers on the cd. Rest of the songs are good and tight. Perry is in true form vocally, and he knows how to work a crowd. Neal a good short solo, and on the record and tape there is a good Ross/Smith instrumental.
The whole concert has a very live feel to it, and makes for a great listen.
The new song, The Part's over (Hopelessly In Love) starts out one way then about midway thru changes beat and direction, as the songs lyrics slides to another take on the song. This works good too. Rollie plays on the concert part, but a studio musician feels the keys on the new studio song. Over all the best cd of the Rollie era.


Escape-1981 (A+)


Escape is my favorite Journey cd, and my second favorite cd of all time. Only Styx' The Grand Illusion stands in front of it. Journey is also keyboardist Jonathan Cain's first cd with the band. This cd is a harder rock album of all the previous cds by the band. The cd also has 3 top ten hits and 2 other songs make the top 40. The cd was also the bands first #1 cd. Even to this day, the cd still makes the top 10 on the catalog charts.
There is not a bad song on this cd. There is no filler on this cd. There is nothing but great music on this cd. Neal Schon and Steve Perry have never sounded better together, and haven't sounded this good since then. This whole cd was magic.
Open Arms is the power ballads of all power ballads. Some say it was the song that started power ballads, I would put that up for debate. But one thing you can't debate is the power of this simple love song. No wonder it sat at the #2 spot for 6 weeks. Steve's vocals soar on this song.
Still They Ride is another prime example of Steve's vocals. They bring this song to life, and Neal's guitar work on this is stunning. Still They Ride is one of my all time favorite songs by the band.
Don't Stop Believin' is my all time favorite Journey song, and at one time probably half of the free worlds. This song still charts today. It is hard to ignore, with it piano intro, Steve's tenor, and Neal's fiery guitar hook, all of this within about a minute into the song. And the song just keeps getting better.
One of Neal's best solos is one Who's Crying Now, fantastic. But I must say this is one of the very few "hit" Journey song's I'm tired of nowadays. It is still a great song, always will be, but it has grown old to me. I can only listen to it maybe once or twice a month now.
Rest of the cd is just awesome, to the opening riffs of Stone In Love to it's angelic guitar ending. Every song has something special about it. Lay It Down has Perry vocals soaring higher and higher and Neal throws down. I could just keep going on about the songs on this cd.
Cain present is quickly felt, the keys are now more of a lead instrument and less of a background instrument. More piano is present too. Rest of the band has never sounded better. And Rock has never sounded better.

Frontiers-1983 (A-)


Journey's 1983 cd is a another rocker from the band. The hit their stride with their last cd ESCAPE, and keep it going here. There are plenty of well known songs on this cd, Faithfully, Separate Ways, Send Her My Love, and After The Fall. The first two are songs that are recognized within the first two seconds of the song. The first is a strong uptempo rocker, with some of Jonathan's best keyboard work. And Faithfully is another Cain showcase.
What is also a nice surprise is the no charting songs. Edge Of The Blade has a good guitar lick running in it, and this song jams. Trouble Child has some of drummer's Steve Smiths best work, and does Trouble Child.
Rubicon is an ok song, and I really don't care for the title track. But over all this is a great cd.
Also a very nice surprise is on the re release of this cd, they included the two songs that were suppose to original be on it, Only The Young and Ask The Lonely. This cd could have been on the same level with Escape, if the record companies had played there cards right.


Raised On Radio-1986 (B)

RAISED ON RADIO is either an ok soft Journey cd, or Steve Perry's greatest solo cd. Either way it is a good cd. ROR has a lot of hits on the cd. And the hits are the strong points of this cd. Be Good To Yourself is a nice little rock song that is in the classic Journey vein. WithI'll Be Alright out You is my favorite song off the cd, and has a more rhythm and blues fell to it, with nice guitar work in it from Neal. Girl Can't Help It has some of Perry's best vocals on the cd, and the song has nice pacing through it. Suzanne is the least liked of the hits for me. Why Can't This Night Go On Forever is my second favorite song off the cd, and has Perry's best vocals on the cd. But it is once you get past the hits that the cd starts to fail. The hits sound more like Journey music, the album cuts sound more like Perry's solo work.
Positive Touch has a nice bouncy beat to it that is helped along Jon's piano, but other than that the song is flat. The title track is gibberish. It Could Have Been You has Neal doing some catchy guitar work, but the song goes nowhere. Rest of the songs are good, but good for Journey is what other groups wish for, but for Journey, it is just not good enough.

Greatest Hits-1988 (A+)

Of all the Greatest hits cds out there from this group and all the other groups in the world, this is my favorite hits package! Period, THE END. Anything that has been been to top 40 radio for the group, has just about made it. From start to finish, this cd stays cranked up. All of the Perry ear hits are here. Plus the then no album hits by the band Ask The lonely and Only The Young.

his cd was released again after Trail By Fire to include the top 10 hit When You Love A Woman.

Time 3-1992 (A-)

Great cd! All the top 40 plus a lot of rock radio and fan favorites not on the Greatest Hits cd are here. Plus about 11 or so unreleased (at least at the time this came out) songs. Most are pretty good. Stand outs from those songs are Good Times, Natural Thing, La Raza Del Sol, and Liberity. Plus a few that should have stayed unreleased With A Tear, Only Solutions, and Into Your Arms. Everything from the beginning to the end in the late 80's is here.



Trail By Fire-1996 (C-)

In 1996 Journey came roaring back onto the scene. The cd went to #3 and they had a hit single with When You Love A Woman. I listened to this cd a lot. Back then I thought the cd was THE BOMB, now I realise it is just A BOMB.
This cd starts out hard and fast with one of their best rockers in years, Message of love. What is there not to like about this song. It also has one of the coolest intro to any song, Journey or other band.
One More is a more modern day rocker that uses Perry raspier voice to good effect. Neal is just awesome on this one.
When You Love A Woman slows things down, but still keeps the cd very alive. This song ranks up there with some the all time Journey ballads. Perry and the band sound great.
But I see now days that after this 1-2-3 punch the cd just falls apart. Back in '96 I guess I was just ready for a new Journey cd, that Perry singing the phone book would have been good.
Castles Burning tries to recapture the fire of the first two songs, but instead of being a blaze, it is just a lot of smoke with not much heat. Perry sounds good, and Neal's playing is good, but this song is just missing something. Maybe direction, since it really goes nowhere. I guess the same could be said for most of the cd. They never reach the strike of the first 3 songs, or the magic of their former cds.
It's Just The Rain and Still She Cries could have been so much better. But as far as rest of the songs I have not mentioned, really they are not worth mentioning.


Greatest Hits Live-1998 (B-)

When this cd first came out I loved it. But now after listening to boots (there are alot better out there than this) and a lot of other concert shows, I find this rather a BIG dissapointment. The notes say recorded from two different shows. You can tell too, by the audience noise. The sticker also said (at the time I bought it) Journey's biggest hits recorded live on their comback tour. The problem with that was Trail By Fire was their comeback cd and they did not tour off of it. And the songs are from the Frontiers tour.
Band and Perry both sound good, but this is not Journey at their best.


Live in Houston 1981: The Escape Tour-2006 (A)




A 2 disk speical, 1 cd and 1 dvd. A lot better set that the above Graetest Hits Live cd. The band is hot and Perry has never sounded better. Whether they are playing the slow songs or the fast ones, the band is hot!! A very good snap shot in time of the band at the top of their game.




The Essential Journey [Limited Edition 3.0]-2008 (A-)





Nothing new here just cover everyhting that Perry was invloved in. Th orginal version of this cd was 2 disks, but after the live Houston cd, they went with 3 cds. It all good and worth picking up.

JOURNEY the early years

JOURNEY (C-)

Journey's first cd was sure different from what people think of Journey today. There was two guitarist Neal Schon and George Tickner (who was only on this one cd), there was no Steve "The Machine Gun" Smith on drums, it was Ansley Dunbar (for 4 cds). Also no Jonathan Cain who would help write the big sweeping ballads. Greg Rollie was on the keyboards and handling lead vocals, so that meant no Steve Perry. Journey was not the hit machine they would become known as.
On their first 3 cds without Perry they had this progressive, jazz type rock that at times worked pretty good for the band. On the first cd the hit and miss is very apparent.
Mystery Mountain and Of A Lifetime are two very good songs that show the good musicianship of the band. But of the seven songs on the release, only four of them have vocals. Kohoutek is the best of the instrumentals, the others are ok at best.
This is not a bad cd, but the jams on most of the songs at times seem a little too long. The production is not the best either, everything seems "low" in the mix . But like I said not bad.

Look Into The Future (C+)

The 2nd Journey cd is just a hair bit better than their first cd. They still have that progressive jazz rock feel to them. And like the first cd it's a lot of hit and miss. And again it is about 50% good/bad. Greg's vocals are better this time around, and Neal is the only guitarist too, that is how it should be anyway. Neal is the best axe men out their, in my opinion.
On A Saturday Night starts out the cd, and if anything was to be commercial off the pre-Perry cds, this is their best chance. One almost wants to sing along with this song. She Makes Me Feel Alright is another decent song as is Anyway. I'm Gonna Leave You is also a classic Journey song, that Perry fans have never heard of.
Production seems more level this time around, but still not much of an improvement over the last cd. Overall, you can walk away with some decent songs on this cd.

Next (D-)

Journey's 3rd cd Next, is my least favorite cd from the band. There is only one song that I like on this cd. That song is Nickle and Dime. And the reason I like Nickel and Dime is... Take a very close listen to it. Tom Sawyer mean anything to you? Rush took the idea of this song and made it into their best know song Tom Sawyer, from the MOVING PICTURES cd. Rest of the songs, no direction, no good vocals, no idea of what they should be doing.

KEVIN CHALFANT

Kevin Chalfant, in my opinion is one of the greatest singers out there. The man has a golden voice, that can be soft or powerful, and a range to match. Not many people know of Kevin, but he has been around for many years, singing in bands like The Storm, Two Fires, 707, Steel Breeze, and Shooting Star. I may not know the whole story, but I can say I know a lot of his music. Kevin was rumored to take Steve Perry's place back in 88 when Perry left the group Journey. Then in the mid 90's before Journey's Trial By Fire cd, Kevin was in the group doing a few shows for the band. The band was to start recording with Kevin, when Perry decided he wanted back in Journey, so they sent Kevin packing, along with Gregg Rollie. Would have loved to have heard a Kevin lead Journey, with Neal, John, Gregg, Smith, and Ross on cd and stage. But it was not meant to be. And yet again when Perry bailed on the Trail tour they went with Steve Augeri (who had a good run with Journey). And yet again when Augeri lost his voice on the Generations tour, the call went out to Kevin, who this time couldn't be there on Journey's time frame. Again, with Augeri and Jeff Scott Soto out of the picture, I was once again hoping for a Kevin led Journey, but again, it is not meant to be.

Even without Journey, Kevin has put out some fantastic cds, and some of them have been done with past and present members of Journey. The cds I have by Kevin are reviewed below, and I can strongly recommend buying his cds. If your a Journey fan, there are times when his music is more Journey than Journey themself.

SOLO CDS

Running With The Wind (A-)

This cd was done between Storm cds, and has a more laid back feel to this cd when compared to the two Storm cds. The first 5 songs on the cd are just plain great. The soul coming from Kevin's voice is beyond belief. Kevin shows he is not a Steve Perry clone, although the compression will always be there. Kevin takes a natural approach to his singing being more his self, than trying to sound like Perry.

Love Changes Everything is a good example of this. On this cd, he is more himself, which is always a good thing. Kevin voice shows such power on this song and through out the cd.

The last 4 songs fail to match the power of the first 5, but still come across strong. It is just that the first half of the cd is very strong, and over shadows the second half of the cd. The only song on the cd, I usually skip is Hurricane, which is the only weak link to a other wise great cd.

Shadows Fade (A-)

This is a treasure indeed. Twisted Again starts the cd off on the right foot. Awesome vocals and a very powerful song. Sooner Or Later is another good rocker. The cd rocks for the most part and very uptempo. Best guitar work since the Storm days. Speak shows off the miracle that is Kevin's voice. My only complaint, is that the cd is a little heaver in production than what I am use to with Kevin, but it doesn't take away from the music or the voice.

Back to Square One (A)

This a Christian hymn cd of traditional songs like I Have Decide To Follow Jesus, How Great Thou Art, At The Cross, Just As I Am, are just some of the 10 hymns on this awesome cd. When I saw How Great Thou Art was on this cd, I was both excited about it and dreading it. I didn't know how Kevin would sing it. Go for the Elvis live cut on the basic hymn. I was wanting the Elvis and also hoping he wouldn't do it. And by Elvis, I mean vocally cut loose, and rip the song. But he didn't. And really that is a good thing, because this is praise cd of worship. And vocally showing off would be defeating the purpose and putting the spot light on you and not Christ.

The term Back square one means to go back to the beginning, and in today's age when some Christian rock can not be told from regular rock, this cd is a true pleasure to hear.

Christmas With Friends (A)

My favorite Christmas cd. Traditional songs and rockin Christmas songs all on one cd. Kevin brings them all to life in awe inspiring vocals. This cd is in heavy rotation every year from Thanksgiving to Christmas. The best out there.

Fly 2 Freedom (A)

Kevin has often been compared to Steve Perry through out his career, and now he has done a Journey tribute cd. Journey's hits are here and we get to see how Kevin would have done fronting Journey. Don't Stop Believing', Faithfully, Lights, Open Arms, and Send Her My Love are the stand outs on this cd. But it is Separate Ways (an awesome Journey song) that falls flat. Kevin does a stand up job on the song but it the retro fluffy keyboards that really hurts the song, the song is still very listenable, but it takes away a lot of the punch that this song is known for. Rest of the cd and its songs come off very good.

Some have gotten mad over Kevin doing these songs, trying to be Perry, but they have the wrong idea. this is a cd of tribute to one of the greatest bands out there, by one of the greatest voices paying homage to another great voice. This cd isn't meant to replace your Journey collection, but give others take on the songs. And this take is very good indeed.

with the Storm.

The Storm (A)

When I first heard the lead off single for this cd, I've Got A Lot To Learn About Love, I just knew that Journey was back inaction with Steve Perry. I went in the music store asking for the new Journey cd, no body knew what I was talking about, until I mentioned the song on the radio. They handed the Storm cd to me and I sat in the car listening to it, before going home. I was blown away!! How could a group sound this much like Journey and not be Journey. You Keep Me Waiting, awesome song to open the cd with, and it just got better. Kevin never heard of him till I listened to this cd, and I have been a fan ever since, buying new and back catalog cds by him. Steve Smith and Ross Valory sounded tight together, but they should, they were Journey's rhythm section for over 10 years. Ramos, a great axeman had enough of Neal Schon's sound to add to the Journey sound. But the big surprise was Greg Rollie. Greg never sounded better on keys, and turned in his best vocals up to that point. His lead vocals on In The Raw, Call Me, Take Me Away, Still Loving You,are smooth, yet emotional. Better than anything he has done with Journey or solo. But the BIG winner was Kevin, him and Rolie teamed up vocals on some songs for the pure-Escape feel of Journey. But when Kevin was alone on vocals, in that time he was untouchable. Two of the most vocally stunning songs were Show Me The Way and the closing song Can't Live Without Love. Those songs showed that Kevin could handle Perry legacy. The Storm did Journey has good as Journey if not better.

Eye of the Storm (A+)

This cd is even better their debut cd, and that was great. Ever song has a purpose and that is to please. Don't Give Up starts of the cd a rockin and the cd never really lets you down from there. The band sound even more Journey like but at the same time towards their own sound.

Long Time Coming is my favorite song on the cd, and one of my top songs of all time. Kevin is fantastic on this and rest of the songs. While Gregg again has some of his best vocals too. And songs like Come In Out Of The Rain, What Ya Doing Tonight, To Have And To Hold, and Give Me Tonight could have fit on any Journey cd. A Shame the band split up do to record company politics.

with Two Fires

Two Fires (B+)

A great debut cd by the band, shows a lot of promise of what is ahead for the band. CD has strong writing, playing and production. Josh shows a strong hand on the axe, and Kevin is vocally awesome. My Love Will Be There is an awesome song to open the cd, and sets the tone for rest of the in what to expect. A Mans Gotta Do What A Mans Gotta Do will have you singing along. Summer of Love, Remember, I Won't Give Up On Us are other stand out songs on this cd. Rest of the cd is pretty good, one or two songs are a little weak, but other than that....This is a cd I put in a crank up from start to finish.

Ignition (B-)

There are a few things that are disappointing about this cd. One is the songwriting, with the talent involved in this cd, Kevin and Josh, plus Survivor's Jim Peterik, one would think that this would have been an outstanding cd. But it seems to be rock by the numbers. Two is the production, after the first Two Fires cd and The Storm cds, this seems to be almost demo quality sound. But Ramos and Kevin sound awesome, just wish they were going somewhere in the song. A few of the songs seem to really have no meaning. There are some shining stars on this cd. Songs like I Will Remember You, Ignition, and I'm Falling. Rest of the songs are not skip or turn down poor, but they don't have the crank it up or sing along quality you expect from Kevin. Still not a bad cd to own, just not one of his best.

with 707

Mega Force (C-)

This is my lest favorite cd with Kevin on it. The production really bites and the so does most of the song writing. Like Shooting Star, 707 as never really been a group I have really liked or followed. The copy I have is the 2006 bonus track re-issue. If memory serves me right, the original came out in or around 82. There are several problems with this cd that I do not like. One the bonus material is pretty bad. The productions sound like it was pulled right off the LP and not remastered, has a very hollow and shallow feel to it. The songs are lame and the music is just about as lame. Kevin singing is not that good either. Sounds like it was cut vocally in one weekend, with Kevin having a cold and sore throat

Having said that there are a couple of bright spots that save this cd from doom. Namely Can't Hold back and Mega Force. This very very seldom seems the inside of any of my cd players.

with the Vu

The Vu [Also know as Phoenix Rising by Kevin Chalfant] (B)

(one of several covers I have seen)

Kevin teams up Journeyman Ross Valory to make a solid cd. Some stand out songs are Keys to the City, Who You Gonna Believe, One Track Mind, and So Long. An early cd that should have got Kevin the Journey job back when Perry first left the band. The other songs hold there own, and there is really nothing I dislike about this cd.

with Shooting Star

Circles (B)
I have neverr been a Shooting Star fan, and I was hoping that maybe with Kevin in the band that would change my mind. I have to say it did not. When I first got this cd, and the only reason I bought was due to Kevin being in the band, I was not impressed. I listened to it about 5 or 6 times and then put it up on the shelf. From time to time I would give it a play, and never really warmed up to it. But something as happened over the past year, I have started to like the cd. Guess I never really gave it time to grow on me. Maybe part of the problem was Kevin was involved in the writing of the songs, except for one. Maybe it was the production. What ever the problem was, it was either me, or I grew use to the music. Runaway and What Is Love were the stand outs on the cd. But songs such as Borrowed Time, Everybody's Crazy, Temptation, I'm A Survivor have call be songs that I play on a regular basis. While George's Song gets skipped every time, rest of the cd seems to be filler that depending on my mood is either passed on or turned down.

Kevin's singing is good as always, the music seems a little lifeless at times. The problem I have had with Shooting Star in the past. Goes to show no matter good a singer is, if the playing and/or the writing isn't any good, the cd will never be above average (look at Steve Perry's For The Love Of Strange Medicine cd).

STEEL BREEZE

Still looking for this cd, been out of print for years. Downloaded their debut cd (without Kevin) the other day, and it pretty good. Also been looking for the cd that has is Hold Onto Your Vision song. Found a utube link so here is the down load of it....

www.megaupload.com/?d=QYEXKTI7

Anyone know where I can get the two above cds, let me know.